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  Why do most ordinary Christians agree with JWs that Jesus is God’s first creation?

  by slimboyfat in

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  in a book which attempts to refute jw christology, the trinitarian scholar greg lanier begins his argument with the surprising admission that a majority of evangelical christians agree with jws that jesus is god’s first creation.

  a 2018 survey by ligonier ministries and lifeway research found that nearly 95 percent of self-described evangelical christians affirm the trinity, but simultaneously, about 80 percent believe that jesus christ is the "first and greatest being created by god.

  " the shocking thing is that these respondents do not appear to realize the stark contradiction in these two positions.. greg lanier, is jesus truly god?

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  Because it's scriptural. He is...the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all other things were created...(Col 1:15-17, Rev 3:14)
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  October Elder's Letter Delayed- Big Announcement at Annual Meeting

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/93h5zpbil6k?si=ffatfxjuxmj_na9i.

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  The new songs suck.
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  Ten reasons Jehovah’s Witnesses have the true religion (plus a bonus one)

  by slimboyfat in

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  thinking back when i was a true believer these are probably the top ten reasons why i believed jws are the true religion.

  1. they show love among themselves by not going to war.

  not killing your fellow believers in any circumstances, including war, would seem to be a very basic requirement for true christianity.

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  No one is a future king until they've received their final seal.
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

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  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  a watcher

  The faithful remnant of the 144,000 (the two witnesses) haven't been officially identified yet but there are over 20,000 in the running.
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

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  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  a watcher

  Jehovah will choose just as many anointed as He wants, be it 144,000, more, or less.
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  Half hearted JWs compared to past generations

  by JohnR1975 in

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  is it just me or has there been a massive change in jws of late?.

  when i grew up in the cult they had a real sense of urgency and would do an hour minimum, these days it’s not even ten mins before coffee break.. same goes for everything else, it’s half hearted .

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  Thomas, the whole Covid issue, from the spiritual and secular lockdowns to the coerced vaccines, was the game changer for me. I still have complete faith in the heavenly org, but my faith in the earthly org was severely damaged.
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

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  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  a watcher

  I hope so. Figurative would make more sense.
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  Half hearted JWs compared to past generations

  by JohnR1975 in

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  2. beliefs

  is it just me or has there been a massive change in jws of late?.

  when i grew up in the cult they had a real sense of urgency and would do an hour minimum, these days it’s not even ten mins before coffee break.. same goes for everything else, it’s half hearted .

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  When the GB 'locked down' the JWs over Covid it did irreparable harm.
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  Listen obey and get vaxed

  by JohnR1975 in

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  the truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.

  yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.

  they are not trusted.

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  In addition to refusing the vaccine, I also complained about the KHs being locked down and the door-to-door work being banned. I didn't want to 'get with the program'. I ended up going inactive for 2 years over that mess.
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  Listen obey and get vaxed

  by JohnR1975 in

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  the truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.

  yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.

  they are not trusted.

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  a watcher

  I am speaking from my own perspective. I was one of the few that refused the vaccine. It was not received well.